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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.80 · baric_ti:utt:00713

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Let's take that into the afternoon.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Would that change your opinion?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It would depend on what data was present. Certainly the pangolin strains were identified, and I think the first paper that was published was in September of 2019, by non-WIV researchers.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    And who was that?
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    I --
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    What organization?
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know. The authors were from Chinese groups. We could find the paper, but that was the first report. In fact, the whole genesis around the pangolin strains, these pangolin strains, is confusing because the group that published first had one sequence. And then, if I understand it correctly, those sequences and samples were picked up, I believe, by WIV researchers, or another group, and they published a completely different set of sequences. So one paper is in a very infrequently read journal, and then the other was in Nature.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    What's the other journal?
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    Again, I can't remember. So there's an DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com issue about -- it's not clear why they found two different virus sequences in the same samples.

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