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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.80 · baric_ti:utt:00709

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

Let's take that into the afternoon.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

BANAL-52 and BANAL-1-something or another, also had receptor binding domains that were virtually identical to SARS-2. So there's two bad viruses and pangolin virus within the clade, within that branch of SARS-2 that had identical receptor binding domains, which means that it's not engineered.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Would your opinion change if you knew that they WIV was conducting work on pangolin viruses around 2019, 2018? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

It would depend on what strain they had. It would depend on what strain they had.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Is that conversation that you've had with anyone?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

Let's take that into the afternoon.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Would that change your opinion?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

It would depend on what data was present. Certainly the pangolin strains were identified, and I think the first paper that was published was in September of 2019, by non-WIV researchers.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And who was that?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

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