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Private channel session 1763

33 messages over 1h 20m, 2022-04-11 – 2022-04-11.

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  1. 2022-04-11 21:14 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1104
    Ian has access to the PO GDoc... Given his erratic behavior as of late, should I cut him off? He only has access tothe main document (including, of course, version history).
  2. 2022-04-11 21:26 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1104
    Cut him off.
  3. 2022-04-11 21:28 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    Will do.
  4. 2022-04-11 21:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    Also, I just noticed something quite interesting going back to this: https://andersenlab.slack.com/files/UT3183GLT/F023HDS9CQ3/peter_daszak_who___china_joint_study_report_fo r_eddie_holmes.pptx [shared file(s): Peter Daszak WHO & China joint study report for Eddie Holmes.pptx]
  5. 2022-04-11 21:30 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    That's the same slide deck (or similar) to the one from VF: https://downloads.vanityfair.com/ecohealth-alliance/peter-daszak-powerpoint.pdf
  6. 2022-04-11 21:31 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    Do we know which one is earlier? Because there are some very interesting differences...
  7. 2022-04-11 21:32 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1105
    Yes! Forget about that one. Not sure which is earlier.
  8. 2022-04-11 21:32 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    For example - here's VF: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.31.56.png]
  9. 2022-04-11 21:33 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    Here's what we have... Notice the arrow isn't in the VF version? (clearly, it's not the _same_ slide deck - just slightly different) [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.32.12.png]
  10. 2022-04-11 21:34 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    Also, no Recommendations in the VF version at all - which is peculiar, because.... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.33.54.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.34.07.png]
  11. 2022-04-11 21:38 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1105
    The title of the VF file is "Peter Daszak WHO China joint study report for NSC 3-24-2021", so that's presumably the data of the presentation. Now, what was the date of what we have... Before or after? I'm thinking before... Also, notice the peculiar switch of "~Raccoon Dog~" "Mink" in the version we have becoming "~Mink~" "Raccoon Dog" in the VF article... (which we discussed previously). :man-shrugging: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11at 21.37.34.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.37.58.png]
  12. 2022-04-11 21:40 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1105
    Wow! That is odd.
  13. 2022-04-11 21:41 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1105
    I think it is 9 'racoon dog' in the WHO report with the same spelling mistake.
  14. 2022-04-11 21:42 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Actually, I think it's "Mink" in the WHO report - and I switched them around above, so it's Mink in Daszak's version and Raccoon Dog in VF's version
  15. 2022-04-11 21:43 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    https://twitter.com/TheTropaion/status/1510642039595151370?s=20&t=GKclqoRYreBX-1_YRchghg
  16. 2022-04-11 21:46 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1106
    Right...I agree that it is mink in the WHO and racoon dog in the VF, but there is also racoon dog in one table (Table10) in the WHO report. The same spelling error is interesting...
  17. 2022-04-11 21:48 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Yeah. Could just be simple spelling errors, but :man-shrugging:
  18. 2022-04-11 21:50 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Also, thank god for metadata - although, this'll get the Leakers go crazy... Look at the original title and create date. (obviously he just copied an old slide deck...) [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.48.10.png]
  19. 2022-04-11 21:52 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Do you have the original email with the attachment Eddie? Any chance you can please forward? The modification date is 5/31 in the metadata but our timestamp is 5/30, so that's probably why. I'm wondering if we can see when helast modified that file. Might actually be a _later_ version than the VF (the "Mink" / "Raccoon dog" stuff would beconsistent with that).
  20. 2022-04-11 22:01 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1106
    I'll see what I can find
  21. 2022-04-11 22:01 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Also, slides 1 - the version we have is a later version - possibly from May vs March (and him included the arrow towards the market for excess fatality could have been from my tweets - e.g.:) [shared file(s): Screen Shot2022-04-11 at 21.57.22.png]
  22. 2022-04-11 22:02 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    VF: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.54.32.png]
  23. 2022-04-11 22:02 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Our version: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 21.54.24.png]
  24. 2022-04-11 22:07 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1106
    Just forwarded you the email.
  25. 2022-04-11 22:28 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1106
    Yeah - deleted file... :disappointed: .
  26. 2022-04-11 22:28 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1107
    Guys, are these maps public? Because.... [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 22.27.54.png]
  27. 2022-04-11 22:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1107
    (also, note the date)
  28. 2022-04-11 22:29 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1107
    Because you can turn pptx into zip, I could get the full-res images: [shared file(s): image28.gif, image29.gif, image30.gif, image31.gif]
  29. 2022-04-11 22:30 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1107
    But don't you have the original slides from Daszak? I sent them to you - right?
  30. 2022-04-11 22:32 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1107
    I have the version from here on Slack, yes. All good - I think the 5/31 date is correct, so what Daszak emailed you isa *later* version than the VF.Eddie, okay for me to share those maps to the other channel without giving details of where I got them? I think it's important Alex and Josh can get a chance to sleuth these....
  31. 2022-04-11 22:32 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1107
    Go for it!
  32. 2022-04-11 22:33 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.1107
    Great! I feel like I have seen these before though, so maybe the WHO report.... I'll check again.
  33. 2022-04-11 22:35 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.1107
    Here the slides I have from Peter. Dated July 24 2021 but I think I downloaded them on May 31st. [shared file(s): Peter Daszak WHO & China joint study report for Eddie Holmes.pptx, Market Slides.pptx]