Private channel session 395

20 messages over 1h 50m, 2020-09-16 – 2020-09-16.

A “conversation” here is an activity session — a run of messages with under 60 minutes of silence inside it. The channel had no native conversation boundaries.

2020-09-16 18:31 Robert F. Garry open PDF p.174

Alina is tweeting up storm on Yan in real time....
2020-09-16 18:43 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

Just digging the hole bigger and bigger
2020-09-16 18:45 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

Although I really doubt that many people are viewing this stuff.
2020-09-16 19:44 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

This does seem a little incestuous: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/scientists-examine-possibility-covid-leaked-lab-part-investigation/
2020-09-16 19:46 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.175

Yeah, having the Grand Wizard of EgoHealth lead that investigation is ridiculous - if there's any connection to the lab, Pete would be implicated (and probably already know about it).
2020-09-16 19:49 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

Will only add fuel to the conspiracy theories. REALLY DUMB!
2020-09-16 19:50 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.175

Yeah, that really doesn't make any sense - that's fishy as hell
2020-09-16 19:54 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

I've no idea what they were thinking. Plus, he's not the best person to do it scientifically.
2020-09-16 19:56 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.175

Yeah, really seems dumb - definitely not the right person to do this no matter what.
2020-09-16 20:03 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

Daszak even says that the conspiracy theorists won't be happy....I agree, but by calling them 'conspiracy theorists'he automatically undermines his claim to be going into the investigation with an 'open mind'.
2020-09-16 20:11 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.175

Stupid own goal.
2020-09-16 20:14 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.175

We had our kick-off meeting with this new NIH CREID network today, which Peter is part of. I couldn't help but reference our 2018 Nature commentary right after his talk... He spend a lot of time saying how we'll "predict and prevent the next pandemic", I basically said "let's get real". He's so full of himself.
2020-09-16 20:15 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.175

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2020-09-16 20:15 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.176

:hankey:
2020-09-16 20:15 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.176

There was a story about the GVP in The Guardian as well: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/ sep/16/how-to-predict-a-pandemic-worlds-most-dangerous-viruses?CMP=share_btn_tw
2020-09-16 20:16 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.176

Good for you!
2020-09-16 20:17 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.176

"*'Why wait for it?' How to predict a pandemic"* Sounds so simple...
2020-09-16 20:18 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.176

They don't say 'how' at all: "It has accurately predicted where the last three outbreaks would emerge, though not their timing". Err, not a prediction then.
2020-09-16 20:19 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.176

"Pandemics are like terrorist attacks," he says. "We know roughly where they originate and what's responsible for them, but we don't know exactly when the next one will happen. They need to be handled the same way - byidentifying all possible sources and dismantling those before the next pandemic strikes." Yes, waterboard as many bats as possible.
2020-09-16 20:21 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.176

Haha, fuck yeah!