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SO on point!! https://twitter.com/monscience/status/1396240581651742724?s=21 [2021-05-22 17:42:52] [Eddie Holmes] This is great! [2021-05-22 18:01:41] [Kristian Andersen] The paper is on my agenda tomorrow morning and I was wondering if we should get some additional (skilled) eyes on it after that? I'm thinking Angie, Spyros Lytras, and Alex Crits-Christoph. Thoughts? [2021-05-22 18:02:21] [Kristian Andersen] Maybe Jemma too? [2021-05-22 18:09:30] [Eddie Holmes] The paper is looking good. It's the evidence doc that needs to be resolved. I think it's a good idea to send to Angie, Alex and perhaps David Robertson. I already passed it to mate Tim Skern who's the editor of Archives of Virology and he is keen to sign. [2021-05-23 03:16:52] [Eddie Holmes] Got this from Dominic. I told him we writing a letter but that we didn't want the WHO team to be involved: "It continues to annoy me when people say that WHO/OIE/FAO aren't 'independent' but letter writers (15/18 of which are from the US) are 'independent'. Sure WHO/OIE/FAO (and add in the UN/UNICEF etc) have their big problems, but what other international groups are there? We in the WHO group may write a piece later about the political/moral/racist/ill-informed/un-evidenced conspiratorial attitudes that surrounded trying to do this work." [2021-05-23 05:13:09] [Robert Garry] https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0022201 Interesting paper. I'll come back to it. [2021-05-23 05:21:52] [Robert Garry] To DD points which is a good one, 6 of the 18 Bloomshitters (BS) were also members of the Cambridge Working Group (CWG)opposing GoF research. Notable non-overlap BS/CWG eDim and Mike Osterholm. [2021-05-23 05:23:37] [Robert Garry] The CWG lost their battle to shut down dangerous virologists largely because of this counter: http://www.scientistsforscience.org/ [2021-05-23 05:28:36] [Robert Garry] This paragraph stuck our for me: "Scientists for Science have a range of opinions on how risk is best assessed. However, maintaining dogmatic positions serves no good purpose; only by engaging in open constructive debate can we learn from one another's experience. Most importantly, we are united as experts committed to ensuring public health is not compromised and the reputation of science in general, and microbiology in particular, is defended." [2021-05-23 05:33:14] [Robert Garry] List of names is good. If we could get Harald zur Hausen, Charlie Rice, Harold Varmus and Mike Bishop it would be awesome.