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[Kristian Andersen] Yup. [2021-05-20 19:59:19] [Kristian Andersen] There more you think about this particular aspect of it, the less sense it makes. [2021-05-20 20:11:42] [Eddie Holmes] If they have shoddy lab procedures then surely it's the virus they use most often that has the greatest chance of leaking out? [2021-05-20 20:12:57] [Kristian Andersen] Yes, although there may well be a difference between BSL-3/4 and BSL-2. A novel bat virus would likely be grown in BSL-2, whereas some of the others are likely BSL-3 or even -4 [2021-05-20 20:14:36] [Eddie Holmes] True. [2021-05-21 01:31:04] [Eddie Holmes] Gilles as done some maths to show that the WIV are lying. At least he admits it: https://pihabeach.micro.blog/2021/05/04/edwardcholmes-can-be.html [2021-05-21 01:38:00] [Andrew Rambaut] Here is a thought of how to structure the evidence document - Have it with categorical statements, followed by a degree of confidence in the statement (and then the evidence used in the following paragraph). I.e.: > The ACE2 binding RBD in SARS-CoV-2 was not inserted or created in a lab [Confidence: high] > .... [2021-05-21 01:38:29] [Eddie Holmes] Excellent idea [2021-05-21 03:24:22] [Andrew Rambaut] [thread - ID: 2021-05-20 15:33:00] @Robert Garry Is Bloom's quote about deliberate escape still out there anywhere? If it is, when we are ready, it might be a good idea to ask Jesse about it? [2021-05-21 04:53:45] [Robert Garry] https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/05/david-relman-on-investigating-origin-of-coronavirus.html [2021-05-21 05:49:48] [Kristian Andersen] [thread - ID: 2021-05-21 05:49:48] Hah - Stanford. Mike Levitt, David Relman, Jay Bhattacharya, Scott Atlas, John Ioannidis.... Is there a university that has done worse during this pandemic? [2021-05-21 05:57:00] [Robert Garry]