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[Eddie Holmes] He's spot on though - it is irresponsible and shameful. I hope they read this. [2021-05-16 19:18:39] [Kristian Andersen] It absolutely is - equal measure arrogance, ignorance, and naiveté. As Bill said, "_I hope they enjoyed their day in the sun and one more Science citation on their curricula vitae_". It won't last. [2021-05-16 19:27:14] [Eddie Holmes] Totally. The arrogance is breath-taking...we in our tidy offices know better than the WHO who actually went to Wuhan. [2021-05-16 19:36:43] [Robert Garry] He's also got a fair amount of science in there as well. I like the way he turns the mine story on it's head. Happy to be "corrected" vis-a-vis the RNA - he's right of course. To Bill's point about animals in your back yard - this little possum showed up in my back yard tonite - they can carry some bad stuff. [shared file(s): image.png] [2021-05-16 23:03:53] [Andrew Rambaut] Actually I am in a bit of a bind here - I really don't want virological to be a forum for debates about conspiracies as it is liable to get toxic. I am going to pull Bill's reply whilst I think about it. But really this should be posted to a blog I think. [2021-05-16 23:09:31] [Andrew Rambaut] @Robert Garry I have moved your posting and Bill's reply to a private area whilst I think about it. I was fine with your posting because it was noting something about genomes. Bill is much more of a personal taking down - whilst I agree with it virological is not the place to do it. He should write a letter. [2021-05-16 23:17:43] [Andrew Rambaut] I have moved your posting to a private group which you should all have access to. [2021-05-17 01:16:03] [Eddie Holmes] I enjoyed this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-A_OPWa5VI [2021-05-17 03:32:59] [Robert Garry] !channel Just put the in the virological email "Andrew that's fine with me. I can post my original comment on Science's eLetters page and then Bill can respond to that. PubPeer is another forum that could be used for a response to Bloom et al. I also suspect VR's Virology Blog will open up a commentary section on Bloom et al soon. b" [2021-05-17 03:40:29] [Andrew Rambaut] I think that is a good plan. I support the letter but I don't have the mental energy to have virological as a hub for this. [2021-05-17 03:41:16] [Andrew Rambaut] Alina has an account on virological (from way back) but perhaps she has forgotten.