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DR. BARIC: Maybe two and a half years ago.
MS. SALAZAR: Okay. Do you think that Dr. Shi and WIV
had the technical capability of doing the work proposed in
DEFUSE on their own?
DR. BARIC: With WIV1, absolutely.
MS. SALAZAR: Okay.
DR. BARIC: I mean, they had the molecular clone.
MS. SALAZAR: So they couldn't have.
DR. BARIC: Yeah. They had a molecular clone.
They've dropped different spike genes in it. So it's the
question of basically, I don't know, I'd have to look at
the S1/S2 junction. But it would be three or four amino
acids that they'd have to drop in. They certainly would
have that technology.
MS. SALAZAR: And one last question before we have to
break. Do you find it odd that the WIV database went down
when it did?
DR. BARIC: I mean, if they really wanted to
conclusively demonstrate that the virus did not come out of
the laboratory, they could have made that available. The
problem is for example, is they may have things in there
that they don't want to share, and the immediate thing that
comes to mind is the Mojiang mine in Yunnan, where six
miners were infected with virus. Two reports from Chinese
researchers say it's a SARS coronavirus-like virus. Some
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