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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.138 · baric_ti:utt:01145

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

Yeah. They had a molecular clone. They've dropped different spike genes in it. So it's the question of basically, I don't know, I'd have to look at the S1/S2 junction. But it would be three or four amino acids that they'd have to drop in. They certainly would have that technology.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

With WIV1, absolutely.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I mean, they had the molecular clone.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

So they couldn't have.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

Yeah. They had a molecular clone. They've dropped different spike genes in it. So it's the question of basically, I don't know, I'd have to look at the S1/S2 junction. But it would be three or four amino acids that they'd have to drop in. They certainly would have that technology.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And one last question before we have to break. Do you find it odd that the WIV database went down when it did?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I mean, if they really wanted to conclusively demonstrate that the virus did not come out of the laboratory, they could have made that available. The problem is for example, is they may have things in there that they don't want to share, and the immediate thing that comes to mind is the Mojiang mine in Yunnan, where six miners were infected with virus. Two reports from Chinese researchers say it's a SARS coronavirus-like virus. Some DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com of those patients were in the acute phase, and the Chinese are too good not to have sequenced those viruses.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And it went down before, right? I can't remember.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

They may not have published them. But the important thing for the U.S. government to realize is they are as good as us in recombinant DNA technology. It is no longer the U.S. is massively in the lead. So their deep sequencing capability is second to none. Their capacity to sequence at least some of those viruses from those patients should have been done. Now, they claimed that it's a fungal infection. Fungal infections can occur after acute infection. The virus has cleared and then you get a fungal infection. Okay. So they didn't lie. They just didn't tell the whole truth.

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