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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.1061 [SLACK_001275] · slack_pm:msg:11076

Date: 2022-01-14 13:29
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recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen

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We really need to figure out what to do about all of this because I think we're getting to a critical point where these documents _will_ go public so it should come from us and not e.g., DRASTIC or congress. The GOP will take the house and Bob and I will be dragged in front of congress - getting this stuff out before in a way in which we 'control'the narrative will be important. I still think we should talk to Jon about it

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2022-01-14 13:21 Kristian G. Andersen open

It's public knowledge that a draft was circulated on Feb 4, but I'm not sure about Feb 7. What needs to be very clearis that WE wrote the paper and there were NO edits from e.g., Christian and Ron (and certainly none from Tony orFrancis - I think maybe Jeremy had a few minor edits). The paper was peer reviewed and that obviously led toseveral additional changes to the final version. The original version from Virological is here: https://t.co/nOddbnq2K5
2022-01-14 13:25 Kristian G. Andersen open

Oh, wow - just read through our old Nature rebuttal... Worth a read. [shared file(s): Nature rebuttal.pdf]
2022-01-14 13:27 Edward C. Holmes open

Yes, very good. Reviewer #2. Who could it be.
2022-01-14 13:27 Kristian G. Andersen open

Hmmmm. I have a hunch.
2022-01-14 13:29 Kristian G. Andersen

We really need to figure out what to do about all of this because I think we're getting to a critical point where these documents _will_ go public so it should come from us and not e.g., DRASTIC or congress. The GOP will take the house and Bob and I will be dragged in front of congress - getting this stuff out before in a way in which we 'control'the narrative will be important. I still think we should talk to Jon about it
2022-01-14 13:39 Edward C. Holmes open

Sorry, but I can't agree to the release of these emails for the reasons I've given before. I think we do nothing. I don't see how DRASTIC could get hold of these. Nature will not allow release of peer review reports.
2022-01-14 13:40 Edward C. Holmes open

We won't be able to control the narrative. Let's be realistic.
2022-01-14 13:46 Kristian G. Andersen open

The problem is, it's not a question of whether to release them or not - if congress gets involved we have to hand over _all_ these documents no matter what we or our institutions say. Either we control that release or it'll come via congress later this year.
2022-01-14 13:46 Kristian G. Andersen open

At that stage it's a legal process

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