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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.1061 [SLACK_001275] · slack_pm:msg:11075

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Date
2022-01-14 13:27
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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Hmmmm. I have a hunch.

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  1. 2022-01-14 13:19 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yup - and I'd leave it at that. Once we mention that drafts were circulated on certain dates, people would want to see those.
  2. 2022-01-14 13:21 Kristian G. Andersen open
    It's public knowledge that a draft was circulated on Feb 4, but I'm not sure about Feb 7. What needs to be very clearis that WE wrote the paper and there were NO edits from e.g., Christian and Ron (and certainly none from Tony orFrancis - I think maybe Jeremy had a few minor edits). The paper was peer reviewed and that obviously led toseveral additional changes to the final version. The original version from Virological is here: https://t.co/nOddbnq2K5
  3. 2022-01-14 13:25 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Oh, wow - just read through our old Nature rebuttal... Worth a read. [shared file(s): Nature rebuttal.pdf]
  4. 2022-01-14 13:27 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, very good. Reviewer #2. Who could it be.
  5. 2022-01-14 13:27 Kristian G. Andersen
    Hmmmm. I have a hunch.
  6. 2022-01-14 13:29 Kristian G. Andersen open
    We really need to figure out what to do about all of this because I think we're getting to a critical point where these documents _will_ go public so it should come from us and not e.g., DRASTIC or congress. The GOP will take the house and Bob and I will be dragged in front of congress - getting this stuff out before in a way in which we 'control'the narrative will be important. I still think we should talk to Jon about it
  7. 2022-01-14 13:39 Edward C. Holmes open
    Sorry, but I can't agree to the release of these emails for the reasons I've given before. I think we do nothing. I don't see how DRASTIC could get hold of these. Nature will not allow release of peer review reports.
  8. 2022-01-14 13:40 Edward C. Holmes open
    We won't be able to control the narrative. Let's be realistic.
  9. 2022-01-14 13:46 Kristian G. Andersen open
    The problem is, it's not a question of whether to release them or not - if congress gets involved we have to hand over _all_ these documents no matter what we or our institutions say. Either we control that release or it'll come via congress later this year.

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