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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.949 [SLACK_001163] · slack_pm:msg:09873

Date: 2021-06-19 16:18
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes

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Yes, and it would mean that someone did in China did some very detailed analysis very quickly and spotted this themselves. I can't see that they data deletion is specific to what the data actually says.

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2021-06-19 16:03 Robert F. Garry open

"Finally, both plausible putative progenitors require that an early mutation to SARS-CoV-2 was a reversion towards the bat coron- avirus outgroups (either C18060T or C29095T) on a branch that subsequently gave rise to multiple distinct descendants." WAIT is this true - I thought WA1 was T18060 so bat-like.
2021-06-19 16:10 Edward C. Holmes open

Well, Jesse has gone full-on conspiracy. I can well imagine people deleting data because they were shit scared what the state would do to them. And he's right that China want to control the message on origins...they are particularly keen that it is not China.
2021-06-19 16:13 Andrew Rambaut open

What does he think they were trying to cover up? That there was something that was one SNP closer to a bat virus that hadn't even been sequenced by then?
2021-06-19 16:13 Andrew Rambaut open

Unless it was !!!
2021-06-19 16:18 Edward C. Holmes

Yes, and it would mean that someone did in China did some very detailed analysis very quickly and spotted this themselves. I can't see that they data deletion is specific to what the data actually says.
2021-06-19 16:22 Robert F. Garry open

He's not overthinking this - Chinese scientist deletes sequences - holy shit it's a cover-up - must be a lab leak.
2021-06-19 16:24 Robert F. Garry open

that was the fox news - murdock version coming to a tv screen near you very soon...
2021-06-19 16:30 Edward C. Holmes open

There's also news/rumours about China's top spy defecting to the US in Feb and providing info about a lab leak. I've just heard it on the radio. No idea what this actually means.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/18/rumours-swirl-chinas-top-spycatcher-has-defected-us/
2021-06-19 16:39 Robert F. Garry open

If he's wearing a raccoon dog coat, I'm all ears!

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