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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.928 · slack_pm:msg:09647

Date: 2021-06-06 14:37 (hour precision)
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

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Also, I find that my reply to Relman had a few salient points... Not at least "Importantly, no evidence has been presented to support any connection to the lab - which remains a speculative theory that would necessarily involve a major cover up and complex web of lies perpetrated by the very scientists and public health authorities that you thank in the end of your letter. Unless there's direct evidence to support such aconspiracy, I think we have to be very careful that we don't unnecessarily add to ongoing anti-Asian racism and hate crimes. I am of course well aware that that is not the intent of your letter, however, it should be clear that it will fan the flames of xenophobia and conspiracy theories - with allegations of a lab leak having no scientific grounding inavailable evidence or data.I hope they're happy.

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I am of course well aware that that is not the intent of your letter, however, it should be clear that it will fan the flames of xenophobia and conspiracy theories - with allegations of a lab leak having no scientific grounding inavailable evidence or data.I hope they're happy.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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I am of course well aware that that is not the intent of your letter, however, it should be clear that it will fan the flames of xenophobia and conspiracy theories - with allegations of a lab leak having no scientific grounding inavailable evidence or data.I hope they're happy.

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2021-06-06 14:37 Robert F. Garry open

What's going on in Ireland?
2021-06-06 14:37 Robert F. Garry open

A few exchanges with zeynep - she may be a lost cause...
2021-06-06 14:37 Edward C. Holmes open

I wonder if Jon will ever leak the Deep Throat email. Point 8 in our response is somewhat topical. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-07 at 8.25.33 am.png]
2021-06-06 14:37 Kristian G. Andersen open

Hah. Yeah.
2021-06-06 14:37 Kristian G. Andersen

Also, I find that my reply to Relman had a few salient points... Not at least "Importantly, no evidence has been presented to support any connection to the lab - which remains a speculative theory that would necessarily involve a major cover up and complex web of lies perpetrated by the very scientists and public health authorities that you thank in the end of your letter. Unless there's direct evidence to support such aconspiracy, I think we have to be very careful that we don't unnecessarily add to ongoing anti-Asian racism and hate crimes. I am of course well aware that that is not the intent of your letter, however, it should be clear that it will fan the flames of xenophobia and conspiracy theories - with allegations of a lab leak having no scientific grounding inavailable evidence or data.I hope they're happy.
2021-06-06 14:37 Edward C. Holmes open

Shall I post that email on the other channel?
2021-06-06 15:32 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, why not - no harm in that (I actually think I might have shared it with Stephen a while bacl)
2021-06-06 15:34 Edward C. Holmes open

It's a good clear history
2021-06-06 15:39 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm glad Bret's on it. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-06-06 at 3.33.46 PM.png]

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