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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.907 [SLACK_001121] · slack_pm:msg:09416

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Date
2021-06-02 15:36
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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Jon Cohen's story had nothing to do it for me - I don't even remember seeing it

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  1. 2021-06-02 15:14 Andrew Rambaut open
    Sorry - I have been out of the loop working on B.1.617.2. But I agree Eddie - it is got quite far from what we were thinking it should be. Everyone keeps saying 'keep it tight' and then adding more stuff in. I think we should not mention manipulation - no furin site, no passaging, nothing - that is all dumb and has been dealt with. I think itshould just address how implausible it is for it ever to get to the lab to escape in the first place and how plausible the animal route is. The one thing we need to nail is the 'lab escape is plausible' shit that serious scientists are signingup to.
  2. 2021-06-02 15:32 Robert F. Garry open
    Agreed! - that's where your capture-escape definition is helpful. Capturing the next pandemic virus, then getting infected is hard [and much less likely than 1 of 14M wildlife traders getting infected]. Escape also rare, but not impossible - that is why the Lab leakers focus on that. Throw in capture-manipulate-escape (still being pushed bythe likes of eDim, Yuri etc) and its a slam dun it didn't happen. [shared file(s): What Did Fauci Tell Trump About Wuhan_ - WSJ.pdf]
  3. 2021-06-02 15:36 Robert F. Garry open
    eDim - might be feeling a little overly cocky these days. [shared file(s): image.png]
  4. 2021-06-02 15:36 Robert F. Garry open
    He's talking about Fauci and Collins here.
  5. 2021-06-02 15:36 Edward C. Holmes
    Jon Cohen's story had nothing to do it for me - I don't even remember seeing it
  6. 2021-06-02 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Jon Cohen's story is brought up because that's the story Tony forwarded to me in his email - Eddie, we're both quoted in it, but yeah, it had nothing to do with any of this. Andrew, what's the skinny on B.1.617.2? I don't see anything I particularly like when it comes to that variant.
  7. 2021-06-02 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Warning or Wanted? I'm confused. [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2021-06-02 16:05 Edward C. Holmes open
    I think it should read "Warning: avoid this man at all costs"
  9. 2021-06-02 16:05 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Better than "Wanted", I guess...

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