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Date: 2021-06-02 15:36
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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eDim - might be feeling a little overly cocky these days. [shared file(s): image.png]

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2021-06-02 14:59 Kristian G. Andersen open

We'll get it back in shape, I'm sure. Let's decide on next steps once we have it - I very much think it's worthwhile tohave it out there for something to point to.
2021-06-02 15:00 Kristian G. Andersen open

I have a lot of urgent shit to deal with today, but I'll have some time tomorrow (hopefully...) to go through it - I think itcan be brought back to life and the full version history is saved.
2021-06-02 15:14 Andrew Rambaut open

Sorry - I have been out of the loop working on B.1.617.2. But I agree Eddie - it is got quite far from what we were thinking it should be. Everyone keeps saying 'keep it tight' and then adding more stuff in. I think we should not mention manipulation - no furin site, no passaging, nothing - that is all dumb and has been dealt with. I think itshould just address how implausible it is for it ever to get to the lab to escape in the first place and how plausible the animal route is. The one thing we need to nail is the 'lab escape is plausible' shit that serious scientists are signingup to.
2021-06-02 15:32 Robert F. Garry open

Agreed! - that's where your capture-escape definition is helpful. Capturing the next pandemic virus, then getting infected is hard [and much less likely than 1 of 14M wildlife traders getting infected]. Escape also rare, but not impossible - that is why the Lab leakers focus on that. Throw in capture-manipulate-escape (still being pushed bythe likes of eDim, Yuri etc) and its a slam dun it didn't happen. [shared file(s): What Did Fauci Tell Trump About Wuhan_ - WSJ.pdf]
2021-06-02 15:36 Robert F. Garry

eDim - might be feeling a little overly cocky these days. [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-06-02 15:36 Robert F. Garry open

He's talking about Fauci and Collins here.
2021-06-02 15:36 Edward C. Holmes open

Jon Cohen's story had nothing to do it for me - I don't even remember seeing it
2021-06-02 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open

Jon Cohen's story is brought up because that's the story Tony forwarded to me in his email - Eddie, we're both quoted in it, but yeah, it had nothing to do with any of this. Andrew, what's the skinny on B.1.617.2? I don't see anything I particularly like when it comes to that variant.
2021-06-02 15:59 Kristian G. Andersen open

Warning or Wanted? I'm confused. [shared file(s): image.png]

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