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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.874 [SLACK_001088] · slack_pm:msg:09054

Date: 2021-05-25 18:44
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Proximal Origin paper

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He made the mistake of bringing up a few specific points (while criticizing our paper) and he's absolutely getting his ass handed to him for being so darn naive. I hope he learns from the experience.

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2021-05-25 17:57 Edward C. Holmes open

I would have thought China would be delighted to see USAMRID mentioned.
2021-05-25 18:00 Edward C. Holmes open

Here's an S gene tree with Weifeng's and Shi's new sequence (green). Clearly a distinct lineage. [shared file(s): RAxML_bipartitions.SpikeNT_MSA_tidy.pdf]
2021-05-25 18:19 Edward C. Holmes open

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/politics/biden-shut-down-trump-effort-coronavirus-chinese-lab/index.html
2021-05-25 18:43 Kristian G. Andersen open

Reading... Separately, Marc is going to regret getting on Twitter today...
2021-05-25 18:44 Kristian G. Andersen

He made the mistake of bringing up a few specific points (while criticizing our paper) and he's absolutely getting his ass handed to him for being so darn naive. I hope he learns from the experience.
2021-05-25 18:53 Edward C. Holmes open

Is he suggesting they got directly infected from tissue in the freezer?
2021-05-25 19:17 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yup, he just brought that up
2021-05-25 19:18 Kristian G. Andersen open

I called it a "very specific version of natural emergence" (and hence hugely unlikely). He didn't like that very much.
2021-05-25 19:18 Kristian G. Andersen open

He's being absolutely swarmed at the moment though, so not really fair to him - but I gotta say, boy oh boy is the stuff he says naive.

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