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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.816 [SLACK_001030] · slack_pm:msg:08509

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Date
2021-05-15 16:14
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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I've got to give this named lecture (relatively big locally) in a few weeks. I don't not sure whether I should: (a) ignore lab escape, (b) mention it's deficiencies politely, or (c) say fuck it and rip to shreds. I'm tempted by (c). I've been advised to keep off Twitter because of this pending FOI court case.

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  1. 2021-05-15 16:14 Edward C. Holmes
    I've got to give this named lecture (relatively big locally) in a few weeks. I don't not sure whether I should: (a) ignore lab escape, (b) mention it's deficiencies politely, or (c) say fuck it and rip to shreds. I'm tempted by (c). I've been advised to keep off Twitter because of this pending FOI court case.
  2. 2021-05-15 17:06 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Definitely (c). Here - start with this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17btNILyJFQccKCg7xAwETRN5LWo9g6A_haWubrywwIU/edit?usp=sharing
  3. 2021-05-15 17:07 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Still working on this document, but I think we have a logical structure now and most of the evidence put in. Let's turn this into a talk (you), Twitter thread (me), and then a paper.
  4. 2021-05-15 17:08 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'll doodle over this this coming week, adding references, more points, etc. - but if we could all add to it, then I thinkwe have a very good start. One thing we need to see if we can more specifically address - Wuhan. People just can't get over the fact it started there and then they don't look at any of the additional evidence.
  5. 2021-05-15 17:15 Edward C. Holmes open
    Right. I'll go over the google doc later today. There's no epidemiological link to the WIV (and people have beensearching night and day for > a year). Simple as that. But there is a direct epidemiological link to an animal market in which CoVs have consistently emerged in the past. There is zero evidence that WIV have any virus that's the direct progenitor of SC2.

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