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Date
2021-05-11 02:56 (hour precision)
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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Surely not. All the WHO team have seen it.

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  1. 2021-05-11 02:53 Robert F. Garry open
    I was typing this: JC is one of a handful of science journo that could get this right. He's probably non to happy _Science_ is publishing this crap. I find it interesting they give a Editorial credit to Jennifer Sills. On further reflectionof RelBloomshit the the two things that piss me off the most are: 1. the assertion that there is "no clear evidence" for natural origin in the WHO report and 2. "Not racists, however, the Chinese scientists, authorities, and public health officials are lying." 1 is an argument from authority meant to demean a scientific conclusion they don't like andconfuse ppl, while 2 is a self-serving plea to ignore the fact that they are proposing a massive cover-up and conspiracy.
  2. 2021-05-11 02:55 Edward C. Holmes open
    My strategy now is try and do as much with China as I can get an insight into what the fuck is going on. Totally agree with your take Bob. #2 is really, really sleazy.
  3. 2021-05-11 02:56 Edward C. Holmes open
    That they are looking so bloody hard suggests to me that they clearly think it is natural. Why bother if it's engineered? SLACK_000988
  4. 2021-05-11 02:56 Robert F. Garry open
    It will be interesting to see what Daszak, Koopsman and others have to say about RelBloomshit. Surely they are not going to sit still and agree about the "no clear evidence."
  5. 2021-05-11 02:56 Edward C. Holmes
    Surely not. All the WHO team have seen it.
  6. 2021-05-11 02:56 Robert F. Garry open
    "My strategy now is try and do as much with China as I can get an insight into what the fuck is going on." More power to you on this!
  7. 2021-05-11 02:56 Robert F. Garry open
    @Eddie Holmes It's really something - yeah Jon publish it. [shared file(s): image.png]
  8. 2021-05-11 02:56 Robert F. Garry open
    @Eddie Holmes A random thought - why is eDim not a signer of RelBloomshit? Going direct at NIH OD Collins maybe too radical? Any journo that really wanted to sink in teeth would find the motherload. [shared file(s): image.png]
  9. 2021-05-11 02:56 Robert F. Garry open
    "We should show the same determination in promoting a dispassionate science-based discourse on this difficult but important issue." They want a determined but dispassionate science-based discourse on the topic that WIV was doing GoF research with the CCP army on a secret progenitor of SC2. Like I said this is starting to really piss me off.I may put my scenario diagrams up on virological.

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