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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.752-753 [SLACK_000966] · slack_pm:msg:07879

Date: 2021-05-05 15:10
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recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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You would expect that if _Science_ is going to publish an ostensibly peer-reviewed letter that there would need to besomething specific there. Yes - please Alina's RatG13 and Pangovirus are fake and SC2 is perfectly adapted BS. Ifit's Relman then GoF is gonna be in there. Very disappointed in Jessie Bloom - he admitted he hadn't looked at the science very closely - now he's going in.

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2021-05-05 14:49 Robert F. Garry open

So yeah - reading my own post -it's probably a letter not a perspective. "Perspectives should have no more than two authors."
2021-05-05 14:52 Robert F. Garry open

Wondering who the other authors are? eDim, Lipstich. Surely they wouldn't put Alina or Metzl. Other Parisites?
2021-05-05 14:53 Kristian G. Andersen open

I would be delighted if they put Metzl on. Alina is a likely one - she really got into Jesse's head.
2021-05-05 14:54 Kristian G. Andersen open

It'd be great if they'd put something specific in there - whatever that might be. That way it's much easier to pick apart. If it's aimless speculation, well, then all one can say is "nothing new in there".
2021-05-05 15:10 Robert F. Garry

You would expect that if _Science_ is going to publish an ostensibly peer-reviewed letter that there would need to besomething specific there. Yes - please Alina's RatG13 and Pangovirus are fake and SC2 is perfectly adapted BS. Ifit's Relman then GoF is gonna be in there. Very disappointed in Jessie Bloom - he admitted he hadn't looked at the science very closely - now he's going in.
2021-05-05 15:20 Edward C. Holmes open

I hope they say that RaTG13 is the closest relative of SARS-CoV-2 and that the pangolin viruses are dodgy. That will clearly show that they've not been listening.
2021-05-05 15:21 Robert F. Garry open

Even thou Gorman is and should be on your shit list - I hope you agreed to look at the letter. I wouldn't play nice with Lab Leakers - they all have something else going on.
2021-05-05 15:30 Kristian G. Andersen open

I told Jim I'd take a look. I'll share when I have it.
2021-05-05 15:35 Robert F. Garry open

Good! https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/who-report-says-covid-originated-in-bats-but-critics-claim-the-study-was-biased Relman is in this interview - and imo - this is probably the GW's best interview. Relman is just going to throwup the same arguments he made here and in the PNAS article.

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