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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.727 [SLACK_000941] · slack_pm:msg:07624

Date: 2021-04-22 16:42
Type: chat message · slack
mentioned: Edward C. Holmes
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry

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Absolutely spot-on @Eddie Holmes - Shi et al, are damm serious scientists. Yes -I get it- a lot of ppl hate the CCP for good reason. BUT - WTF have we been doing over the past 4 or 5 decades? Chinese, Taiwanese, other Asian scientists were trained in the best US, European and Australian labs. I remember "training" with C-C King aka DanaKing - she was a freaking mess in graduate school, but went back to Taiwan and is now a [lower case] "god" ofTaiwan virology. WE built this. It's should not be about ideology, the CCP or political BS.

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2021-04-22 16:01 Robert F. Garry open

The ASTMH article a good start. Much more needed to counter the BS.
2021-04-22 16:03 Kristian G. Andersen open

I'm talking to the WH (again....) next week. We'll see.
2021-04-22 16:11 Robert F. Garry open

We may need to get more pro-active. We're not in the "majority" opinion. Gonna take some leadership.
2021-04-22 16:24 Edward C. Holmes open

The ASTMH story makes the simplest point that I've made so many times before: if they had a cool bat CoV, particularly one with a FCS, they would have definitely published it prior to the pandemic. No bigger driver than ahigh impact paper.
2021-04-22 16:42 Robert F. Garry

Absolutely spot-on @Eddie Holmes - Shi et al, are damm serious scientists. Yes -I get it- a lot of ppl hate the CCP for good reason. BUT - WTF have we been doing over the past 4 or 5 decades? Chinese, Taiwanese, other Asian scientists were trained in the best US, European and Australian labs. I remember "training" with C-C King aka DanaKing - she was a freaking mess in graduate school, but went back to Taiwan and is now a [lower case] "god" ofTaiwan virology. WE built this. It's should not be about ideology, the CCP or political BS.
2021-04-22 16:52 Edward C. Holmes open

Totally. I've not seen C-C for a few years now. She's great!
2021-04-22 16:55 Robert F. Garry open

Virology - it's like a small town to grow up in...

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