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[2021-04-22 16:03:54] [Kristian Andersen] I'm talking to the WH (again....) next week. We'll see. [2021-04-22 16:11:05] [Robert Garry] We may need to get more pro-active. We're not in the "majority" opinion. Gonna take some leadership. [2021-04-22 16:24:56] [Eddie Holmes] The ASTMH story makes the simplest point that I've made so many times before: if they had a cool bat CoV, particularly one with a FCS, they would have definitely published it prior to the pandemic. No bigger driver than a high impact paper. [2021-04-22 16:42:14] [Robert Garry] Absolutely spot-on @Eddie Holmes - Shi et al, are damm serious scientists. Yes -I get it- a lot of ppl hate the CCP for good reason. BUT - WTF have we been doing over the past 4 or 5 decades? Chinese, Taiwanese, other Asian scientists were trained in the best US, European and Australian labs. I remember "training" with C-C King aka Dana King - she was a freaking mess in graduate school, but went back to Taiwan and is now a [lower case] "god" of Taiwan virology. WE built this. It's should not be about ideology, the CCP or political BS. [2021-04-22 16:52:45] [Eddie Holmes] Totally. I've not seen C-C for a few years now. She's great! [2021-04-22 16:55:21] [Robert Garry] Virology - it's like a small town to grow up in... [2021-04-23 02:11:49] [Eddie Holmes] From journo in Wuhan "This from the wildlife rescue center is interesting. These places are potentially as or more dangerous for spreading animal disease than wet markets if there is that big a mix of wildlife present, potentially diseased wildlife since they've been rescued. This place is within the park, as is that wildlife zoo [connected to the notorious tiger farm in Guangxi], and all overseen by the Hubei Provincial Forestry Bureau. Statement from 2012: http://lyj.hubei.gov.cn/jhyjzx/kpyd/201912/t20191210_1731975.shtml The Provincial Wildlife Rescue Center is located in the picturesque and beautiful Wuhan Jiufeng National Forest Park. It covers an area of 73.5 acres and has a green coverage rate of over 80%. Since its establishment, the center has rescued and rescued more than 129,000 heads of 89 species of national key protected wild animals, such as golden monkeys, black bears, pythons, and gray cranes, such as golden monkeys, black bears, pythons, and gray cranes. It has carried out more than 150 release activities and released more than 121,000 animals ( A herbarium has been established, and an animal science education base has been established in Changqing Primary School. At present, there are more than 185 wild animals of 12 species in the park, with 68 wild animal specimens. They also released this about regulations for collecting, storing and transporting animal disease samples. http://lyj.hubei.gov.cn/jhyjzx/kpyd/202012/t20201228_3133761.shtml Were they storing disease samples on sight? Wonder how biosecure the place was?" [2021-04-23 02:14:09] [Eddie Holmes] He's certainly right about rescue centres (which is of course where the pangolins ended up). We have them here as well, hence that bat video I sent the other day. The idea that we can prevent people from interacting with wildlife is ridiculous. [2021-04-23 02:33:23]