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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.613 [SLACK_000827] · slack_pm:msg:06410

Date: 2021-03-21 16:01
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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Started out promising - and then just went off the rails.... If they could credibly show that three people at WIV got sick and needed to go to the hospital in November, then that would absolutely be troubling. However, the we started talking about adenoviruses and bioweapons - clearly just idiots doing what idiots do.

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If they could credibly show that three people at WIV got sick and needed to go to the hospital in November, then that would absolutely be troubling.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts

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If they could credibly show that three people at WIV got sick and needed to go to the hospital in November, then that would absolutely be troubling.

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2021-03-21 15:43 Edward C. Holmes open

Totally. What a shit story. She forgot the add the bit about all these people being SARS-CoV-2 antibody negative.
2021-03-21 15:44 Robert F. Garry open

:woman-facepalming:must have been an over-sight on her part.
2021-03-21 15:50 Robert F. Garry open

Not sure who is managing WHO, but these "delays" are self-inflicted wounds. They really should not be promising areport next week, then another week and then kick the can yet again. Feeding into the Parisites...
2021-03-21 15:52 Edward C. Holmes open

Agreed. WHO are just too bureaucratic. I'll mention this to Dominic.
2021-03-21 16:01 Kristian G. Andersen

Started out promising - and then just went off the rails.... If they could credibly show that three people at WIV got sick and needed to go to the hospital in November, then that would absolutely be troubling. However, the we started talking about adenoviruses and bioweapons - clearly just idiots doing what idiots do.
2021-03-21 16:05 Edward C. Holmes open

Mad shit.
2021-03-21 16:09 Robert F. Garry open

Maddening that Biden admin seems to have at least partly bought into this shit.
2021-03-21 16:41 Robert F. Garry open

Maybe someone should pass this on to Jessie. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/03/the-conspiracy-theorists-problem-isnt-what-they-believe/618285/"The psychological traits that lead one down the conspiracy-theory rabbit hole are to some extent present in most ofus. We all like to listen to people who agree with us. We are all prone to reject unwelcome evidence. We are all more engaged by dramatic stories than by gritty policy detail. And we all like to feel that we have insights into the world that others lack. Nobody likes to feel that they are being taken for a fool, so doubting early and often can seem like the smart thing to do. And if we want to think clearly about the world, skepticism is a good thing."

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