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Date
2021-03-17 20:36
Type
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recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes

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  1. 2021-03-17 20:31 Edward C. Holmes open
    Wow
  2. 2021-03-17 20:33 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I mean - does he even _check_ the kind of shit he links to? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-17 at 8.32.55 PM.png]
  3. 2021-03-17 20:36 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Those RdRp fragments - which were all released months before the pandemic - aren't even remotely closely relatedto SC2. Any quick glance at one of the trees on Twitter or, you know, a simple blast search would tell you as much. Really, really disappointing he's gone down this route - not to mention the false equivalence here. Just complete bs.I'm all for keeping an open mind and for investigating _actual_ evidence, but it's this kind of sloppiness fromrespected scientists that makes me furious.
  4. 2021-03-17 20:36 Kristian G. Andersen open
    "Central to being a good scientist is keeping an open mind when evidence is sparse, and as a "virus expert" who has followed this topic closely: it's clear in any objective assessment that both natural origins and accidental lab leak are plausible." Well, look at the fucking data first. Properly.
  5. 2021-03-17 20:36 Edward C. Holmes
    I've just replied to one.
  6. 2021-03-17 20:37 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Haha, just saw - sneaky :wink:
  7. 2021-03-17 20:38 Edward C. Holmes open
    Been pissing me off all day.
  8. 2021-03-17 20:40 Kristian G. Andersen open
    It's the same old shit recycled over, and over, and over, and over again and again. It's so frustrating. If these idiots would actually take a moment to look at the data themselves instead of grabbing bits from Twitter and shitty news articles.
  9. 2021-03-17 20:41 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Last time I pointed out one of Jesse's flaws (about "RaTG13 being dodgy") he said - oh, I haven't tried to assemble the genome myself yet... Well, before you accuse other people of scientific misconduct, it might be good to do thebare minimum first.

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