Private channel session 1121

11 messages over 32m, 2021-03-17 – 2021-03-17.

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1. 2021-03-17 20:11 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.603
   https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1372383452197097473?s=20
2. 2021-03-17 20:31 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.603
   Wow
3. 2021-03-17 20:33 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.603
   I mean - does he even _check_ the kind of shit he links to? [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-03-17 at 8.32.55 PM.png]
4. 2021-03-17 20:36 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.603
   Those RdRp fragments - which were all released months before the pandemic - aren't even remotely closely relatedto SC2. Any quick glance at one of the trees on Twitter or, you know, a simple blast search would tell you as much. Really, really disappointing he's gone down this route - not to mention the false equivalence here. Just complete bs.I'm all for keeping an open mind and for investigating _actual_ evidence, but it's this kind of sloppiness fromrespected scientists that makes me furious.
5. 2021-03-17 20:36 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.603
   "Central to being a good scientist is keeping an open mind when evidence is sparse, and as a "virus expert" who has followed this topic closely: it's clear in any objective assessment that both natural origins and accidental lab leak are plausible." Well, look at the fucking data first. Properly.
6. 2021-03-17 20:36 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.603
   I've just replied to one.
7. 2021-03-17 20:37 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.603
   Haha, just saw - sneaky :wink:
8. 2021-03-17 20:38 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.604
   Been pissing me off all day.
9. 2021-03-17 20:40 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.604
   It's the same old shit recycled over, and over, and over, and over again and again. It's so frustrating. If these idiots would actually take a moment to look at the data themselves instead of grabbing bits from Twitter and shitty news articles.
10. 2021-03-17 20:41 Kristian G. Andersen open PDF p.604
    Last time I pointed out one of Jesse's flaws (about "RaTG13 being dodgy") he said - oh, I haven't tried to assemble the genome myself yet... Well, before you accuse other people of scientific misconduct, it might be good to do thebare minimum first.
11. 2021-03-17 20:44 Edward C. Holmes open PDF p.604
    I hear you. Well let's remind him about this when the WHO report comes out.