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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.565 [SLACK_000779] · slack_pm:msg:05901

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Date
2021-03-04 07:14
Type
chat message · slack
mentioned
Andrew Rambaut
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry
Topics
Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Actually, the *Open Letter* is very strange. Here are the scenarios they want to consider : "Start its study by considering all possible scenarios for each pathway. These should include: o A pure zoonosis event with/without intermediate host; o Infection at a sampling site of a lab employee or of some accompanying non-lab personnel; o Infection during transport of collected animals and/or samples; o Lab Acquired Infection (LAI) in one of the laboratories in Wuhan; o Lab-escape without LAI, for instance via waste handling or animals that escaped or were disposed of inappropriately. " Honestly, what happened to the SC2 is bioengineered, modified by seemless molecular biology orpassaged on humasn cells or transgenic animals? @Andrew Rambaut was correct - they seems to be now wedgedinto a corner that--- well--- they had SC2 before the outbreak and just didn't tell any body.

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These should include: o A pure zoonosis event with/without intermediate host; o Infection at a sampling site of a lab employee or of some accompanying non-lab personnel; o Infection during transport of collected animals and/or samples; o Lab Acquired Infection (LAI) in one of the laboratories in Wuhan; o Lab-escape without LAI, for instance via waste handling or animals that escaped or were disposed of inappropriately. own voice, substantive speaker_own asserts

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  1. 2021-03-04 07:02 Robert F. Garry open
    WSJ this morning [shared file(s): WHO Investigators to Scrap Plans for Interim Report on Probe of Covid-19 Origins- WSJ.pdf]
  2. 2021-03-04 07:03 Robert F. Garry open
    Alina and friends - open letter. [shared file(s): COVID OPEN LETTER FINAL 030421 (1).pdf]
  3. 2021-03-04 07:14 Robert F. Garry
    Actually, the *Open Letter* is very strange. Here are the scenarios they want to consider : "Start its study by considering all possible scenarios for each pathway. These should include: o A pure zoonosis event with/without intermediate host; o Infection at a sampling site of a lab employee or of some accompanying non-lab personnel; o Infection during transport of collected animals and/or samples; o Lab Acquired Infection (LAI) in one of the laboratories in Wuhan; o Lab-escape without LAI, for instance via waste handling or animals that escaped or were disposed of inappropriately. " Honestly, what happened to the SC2 is bioengineered, modified by seemless molecular biology orpassaged on humasn cells or transgenic animals? @Andrew Rambaut was correct - they seems to be now wedgedinto a corner that--- well--- they had SC2 before the outbreak and just didn't tell any body.
  4. 2021-03-04 07:46 Kristian G. Andersen open
    But Bob, we have to remain openminded, correct? I.e., _anything_ and _everything_ is possible. :man_in_business_suit_levitating:
  5. 2021-03-04 07:47 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Look at the names on that letter though - not a _single_ credible scientist. Which is a little surprising to me.

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