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[Kristian Andersen] I think we need the Bob Garry podcast. It's fine we don't have Twitter Garry, but I think the world definitely needs Podcast Garry... Like that German dude. [2021-03-03 16:34:24] [Eddie Holmes] Oh, I agree! [2021-03-03 16:49:23] [Eddie Holmes] I think we call it 'The Bob's Bollocks' (which, to clarify, means it will be ace). I think that would give a more positive vibe than 'Garry's Grumbles'. [2021-03-04 07:02:21] [Robert Garry] WSJ this morning [shared file(s): WHO Investigators to Scrap Plans for Interim Report on Probe of Covid-19 Origins - WSJ.pdf] [2021-03-04 07:03:08] [Robert Garry] Alina and friends - open letter. [shared file(s): COVID OPEN LETTER FINAL 030421 (1).pdf] [2021-03-04 07:14:22] [Robert Garry] Actually, the *Open Letter* is very strange. Here are the scenarios they want to consider : "Start its study by considering all possible scenarios for each pathway. These should include: o A pure zoonosis event with/without intermediate host; o Infection at a sampling site of a lab employee or of some accompanying non-lab personnel; o Infection during transport of collected animals and/or samples; o Lab Acquired Infection (LAI) in one of the laboratories in Wuhan; o Lab-escape without LAI, for instance via waste handling or animals that escaped or were disposed of inappropriately. " Honestly, what happened to the SC2 is bioengineered, modified by seemless molecular biology or passaged on humasn cells or transgenic animals? @Andrew Rambaut was correct - they seems to be now wedged into a corner that--- well--- they had SC2 before the outbreak and just didn't tell any body. [2021-03-04 07:46:50] [Kristian Andersen] But Bob, we have to remain openminded, correct? I.e., _anything_ and _everything_ is possible. :man_in_business_suit_levitating: [2021-03-04 07:47:24] [Kristian Andersen] Look at the names on that letter though - not a _single_ credible scientist. Which is a little surprising to me. [2021-03-04 08:58:03] [Robert Garry] Yeah not exactly a long list of nobel laureates. [2021-03-04 11:06:11] [Eddie Holmes] Bruno Canard is credible. I'm not sure why he goes for this. But it's a really weak list. REALLY weak. Generally C-listers. Interesting to see Claverie on board, although he is routinely full of shit. I spoke to Peter Daszak last week and he said he was just finishing his part of the report. My Wuhan holiday snaps are in their somewhere. [2021-03-04 11:26:12]