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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.508 [SLACK_000722] · slack_pm:msg:05306

Date: 2021-02-11 06:50
Type: chat message · slack
mentioned: Edward C. Holmes
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Robert F. Garry
Topics: Wuhan Institute of Virology collaboration

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@Eddie Holmes Agree with DD that it would have been good to have more epi data about early cases. Seems like an opportunity lost - but I sorta get it. If they came out and said no epi links of early cases to WIV, then the conspiracy theorists will just cry cover-up. And, any case within 100 km of WIV is going to be taken as conclusive evidence for the leak in the literal sense.

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If they came out and said no epi links of early cases to WIV, then the conspiracy theorists will just cry cover-up.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts
And, any case within 100 km of WIV is going to be taken as conclusive evidence for the leak in the literal sense.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

Statement

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If they came out and said no epi links of early cases to WIV, then the conspiracy theorists will just cry cover-up.

quoted / not their view

hypothetical conditional framing

asserts

And, any case within 100 km of WIV is going to be taken as conclusive evidence for the leak in the literal sense.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

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A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it answers, so neighbouring messages are always shown.

2021-02-11 06:35 Robert F. Garry open

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pYh8dkuNi_tAVxw5CdYJRN-KRdkb5EvmrQwNEXDM7mM/edit New doc/new invites - maybe some luck...
2021-02-11 06:46 Robert F. Garry open

@Eddie Holmes Would be good - he'd doing a fine job under difficult circumstances. Daszak seems to like to stir thepot....mixing in too much Ego *hey he says - I'll talk to Biden set him straight).
2021-02-11 06:50 Robert F. Garry

@Eddie Holmes Agree with DD that it would have been good to have more epi data about early cases. Seems like an opportunity lost - but I sorta get it. If they came out and said no epi links of early cases to WIV, then the conspiracy theorists will just cry cover-up. And, any case within 100 km of WIV is going to be taken as conclusive evidence for the leak in the literal sense.
2021-02-11 07:00 Robert F. Garry open

@Eddie Holmes Hoping to see the argument fleshed out that there is no evidence that WIV had and was working on SC2 or a 99%+ CoV before the outbreak. Logically there no reason that they would have not revealed this, and instead released the 96% CoV RaTG13.
2021-02-11 07:03 Robert F. Garry open

@Eddie Holmes Also - and we can prompt this on Virological (if Bob can figure out proper invites on Google docs) that the new Cambo, Thai and Japan viruses totally obliterate the DRASTIC/Alina nonsense that RaTG13, RmYN)2 and the pango viruses are contrived.
2021-02-11 07:48 Robert F. Garry open

Here are the permissions on the new doc.... [shared file(s): image.png]
2021-02-11 08:16 Kristian G. Andersen open

Thanks Bob - hopefully I can find some time to take a look next week as well.

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