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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.411 [SLACK_000625] · slack_pm:msg:04244

Date: 2021-01-16 13:24
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis Furin cleavage site and molecular features Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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So much of the lab origin stuff is predicted on the idea that RaTG13 is the direct ancestor of SC2, which is obviously nonsense. I still can't get past the coincidence that RaTG13 was the one virus they had published before the outbreak and that it turns out to be closest relative. If they had other closer viruses there was nothing to prevent them publishing some years back. And then you have the pangolin RBD.

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So much of the lab origin stuff is predicted on the idea that RaTG13 is the direct ancestor of SC2, which is obviously nonsense.	quoted / not their view	sarcasm ironic or mocking marker	denies

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So much of the lab origin stuff is predicted on the idea that RaTG13 is the direct ancestor of SC2, which is obviously nonsense.

quoted / not their view

sarcasm ironic or mocking marker

denies

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2021-01-16 13:04 Robert F. Garry open

https://www.myarklamiss.com/lifestyle/health/coronavirus/ldh-confirms-first-covid-19-variant-in-louisiana/
2021-01-16 13:17 Edward C. Holmes open

Very interesting to hear about that pangolin with a virus from 2017. That there were two lineages of pango viruses always suggested a more long-standing infection to me.
2021-01-16 13:24 Edward C. Holmes

So much of the lab origin stuff is predicted on the idea that RaTG13 is the direct ancestor of SC2, which is obviously nonsense. I still can't get past the coincidence that RaTG13 was the one virus they had published before the outbreak and that it turns out to be closest relative. If they had other closer viruses there was nothing to prevent them publishing some years back. And then you have the pangolin RBD.

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