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Date
2021-01-15 17:44
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Edward C. Holmes
Topics
Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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I agree. The statement about pangolins is ridiculous...and then they throw in the military links....

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  1. 2021-01-15 17:16 Edward C. Holmes open
    Do you know why GISAID are claiming that they releasing the first genome on January 10th? This is a complete fabrication. A journalist pointed me to it: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2021-01-16 at 12.14.27 pm.png]
  2. 2021-01-15 17:19 Edward C. Holmes open
    @Robert Garry @Andrew Rambaut @Kristian Andersen Massive shit is about to hit the fan.... [shared file(s): Fwd FACT SHEET Activity at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.pdf]
  3. 2021-01-15 17:31 Edward C. Holmes open
    Reading it carefully, I see a rather vague set of accusations with no smoking gun. The idea that the WIV were working on pangolins seems totally bizarre. "With symptoms consistent with both COVID-19 and common seasonal illnesses"? Could mean anything. The timing speaks volumes from me...passing shot from Pompeo?
  4. 2021-01-15 17:44 Robert F. Garry open
    Bannon, Pompeo, etc laying the groundwork for the next push.
  5. 2021-01-15 17:44 Edward C. Holmes
    I agree. The statement about pangolins is ridiculous...and then they throw in the military links....
  6. 2021-01-15 18:01 Edward C. Holmes open
    From my NYT journo friend "Pompeo is getting ready to join the presidential race in four years, so he's laying all kinds of markers and booby traps to show he's tough on China."
  7. 2021-01-15 18:05 Kristian G. Andersen open
    That so called "Fact Sheet" seems completely bogus to me - there's no _actual_ information in there other than they did lab work... No specific allegations, no specific data - pure bs.
  8. 2021-01-15 18:08 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yup, pure BS. On the subject of BS...why are GISAID claiming that they released the sequence on the 10th?? Their data were uploaded on the 12th.
  9. 2021-01-15 18:17 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, I was really confused about that too - I talked to Peter on the phone and he mentioned it. I don't remember that at all, but then again, I wouldn't have checked GISAID on that day. I'm sure it's pure BS - everybody got that fucking sequencing from Virological and your post! I mean, that post has more views than our Proximal Origin post....

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