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Date
2021-01-10 07:21
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Kristian G. Andersen, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Robert F. Garry

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This is just the URT (nasal) I think data in the lung not as dramatic if any change at all (need lung data for Nelly, Eeek and Pooh) - worth noting Doug alone is easier to neutralize.

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  1. 2021-01-10 06:31 Robert F. Garry open
    I'm gonna break reviewer privacy because it's relevant to share an title of an article I just this minute was asked toreview: "Hypothesis of Potential Evolution of SARS-CoV-2 through Hybridization of SARS-CoV-1 withSaccharomyces cerevisiae and Mycobacterium avium naturally inside an immunocompromised Pangolin" Incredible.
  2. 2021-01-10 06:45 Robert F. Garry open
    The next data point that's going to be super critical is IF we start to see vaccine breakthrough with the UK variant. Ithink enough people have been vaccinated in the UK to perhaps start to see a trend.
  3. 2021-01-10 07:04 Kristian G. Andersen open
    I'm not so sure immune selection isn't showing an appreciable selection pressure - "phase change" might be a little too strong, however, I think it could already be one of the most selective forces. We'll see. Bob - yeah, Doug had higher viral loads too, but much less of a dramatic difference than Nelly. Of course, the plot we're looking at here is Doug vs Nelly - Nelly vs Hugo (Hu-1..) would be even more dramatic.
  4. 2021-01-10 07:19 Robert F. Garry open
    Indeed -here's one of many Hugo vs Doug (Genome copies not Ct) ~1 log whereas Nelly vs Doug is ~2 Logs on average it seems: [shared file(s): image.png]
  5. 2021-01-10 07:21 Robert F. Garry
    This is just the URT (nasal) I think data in the lung not as dramatic if any change at all (need lung data for Nelly, Eeek and Pooh) - worth noting Doug alone is easier to neutralize.
  6. 2021-01-10 07:32 Andrew Rambaut open
    My prediction is that B.1.1.7 will turn out to be more transmissible because of the 501Y with the other stuff (FCS, deletions etc) - and it arose because of an extraordinary circumstances. But the Brazilian and RSA variants will turn out to be doing well because they are fitter in the very high (and underestimated) existing seroprevalence in those places. So they will pop up every where but are unlikely to really take off in places with lower seroprevalence (or atleast no more likely than anything else).
  7. 2021-01-10 07:33 Andrew Rambaut open
    But that means they will soon be fitter in other places like USA and Europe unless things improve quickly.
  8. 2021-01-10 07:53 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, very reasonable. It's unclear to me if B.1.1.7 might also have an "immunity" phenotype - a lot is said about the RSA variant in that regard, but that's because we have _data_ on E484K, but for B.1.1.7 we don't have anything yet. Also, Eeek is already in B.1.1.7 as you say....
  9. 2021-01-10 07:56 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Oh, and to the last part - things over here won't improve quickly, unfortunately. It's rapidly deteriorating - without the effect of the new lineages.

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