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1. 2021-01-02 13:25 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Btw - that NYT article is really really good! Haven't read the AP one...
2. 2021-01-02 13:38 Edward C. Holmes open
   Frankie is indeed a total twat. I can't stand to even think about him. Agree about the NYT article. I spent a lot of time talking to them. They've got loads of data from December and earlier. Clearly zero evidence for a lab escape and there were was zero chat about it in China at the time. The WHO team are leaving this week. Seems to me it isgoing to be a complete waste of time because they are not going to talk to the key people. China is just going topush the 'it's not China' line.
3. 2021-01-02 13:47 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Yeah, I think people who keep insisting that all this weirdness from China MUST be because it came from a lab just don't understand outbreak response - it's not, it's just politics and power play. We see this every damn time there'san outbreak - I'm sure @Robert Garry remember when he got his visa pulled for sniffing around too much... :wink:
4. 2021-01-02 13:48 Kristian G. Andersen open
   Not ideal, by no means, but it's not exactly 'weird' or 'unusual' - it's just the typical bullshit.
5. 2021-01-02 14:02 Edward C. Holmes
   Yes, in this case it is Xi Jinping pushing the 'it's not from China' line in an attempt to restore some domestic pride inChina. I'm sure he's saying this to bolster his own popularity at home rather than for international politics.

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