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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.245 · slack_pm:msg:02551

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Date
2020-10-30 17:09 (hour precision)
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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Okay, cool - I'm sure they're going to have a totally mundane explanation - like why RaTG13 was named that way cwink:

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  1. 2020-10-30 17:06 Edward C. Holmes open
    shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-10-31 at 11.03.59 am.png
  2. 2020-10-30 17:07 Edward C. Holmes open
    This time-line makes sense but it does show that George Gao must have known about it before Dec. 30!! I never believed that one for a second.
  3. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, this totally makes sense given the timeline. And yeah - George must have known. The ENA entries must have been created for some other purpose and backfilled. But it _is_ weird - because they only created those four on ENA and then nothing for a few weeks. SLACK_000459
  4. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    We'll get to the bottom of it. That also provided me with Weijun Chen's email address so I'm just contacting him now.
  5. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen
    Okay, cool - I'm sure they're going to have a totally mundane explanation - like why RaTG13 was named that way cwink:
  6. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    On it.
  7. 2020-10-30 17:09 Kristian G. Andersen open
    (and one pretty critical thing against the bonkers theories in the paper - wouldn't WIV have been mentioned in theBioSample had the virus come from there....? :man-shrugging:)
  8. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    Totally!
  9. 2020-10-30 17:09 Edward C. Holmes open
    Tommy says there are rumours that people knew earlier. My boy told me this: "As for the entry date, I have not read the long document yet, but that submission date is possible. They all talked about the sampling might occur much earlier (from different occasions). Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the sample is collected around that time (Dec 10th, not too bad). And I wouldn't be surprised if they have "changed" the sampling date". Nothing officially. Atworse it means that the China CDC must have known earlier which will throw the shit badly on them, particularly George. May be not a bad thing. Does not impact origins in any way as I see it.

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