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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.241 [SLACK_000455] · slack_pm:msg:02515

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Date
2020-10-30 15:03
Type
chat message · slack
recipient
Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker
Kristian G. Andersen

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That's the bit that's strange - because typically you don't create a BioSample before you have the data, unless you know the data is immediately forthcoming and you want to make sure there's no delay in submitting the data.

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  1. 2020-10-30 14:56 Kristian G. Andersen open
    No, on 12/10 BGI created four data entries with EBI. Data was then later filled in. Typically that's not really how it's done.
  2. 2020-10-30 14:57 Kristian G. Andersen open
    So creation is 12/10, but upload is at a later date (I don't think we can know when - collection date is 12/26 and the data was released to the public 1/30)
  3. 2020-10-30 14:58 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Creating a BioSample for a pandemic virus two weeks before it's known that you have a patient with said virus is alittle strange - if the timeline is correct.
  4. 2020-10-30 15:00 Edward C. Holmes open
    The collection date sounds totally right. I don't understand why there is a file creation date 2 weeks earlier. Makes nosense at all. And why would BGI know about this? They are a commercial company that have nothing to do with Wuhan. WIV do their sequencing in-house I think.
  5. 2020-10-30 15:03 Kristian G. Andersen
    That's the bit that's strange - because typically you don't create a BioSample before you have the data, unless you know the data is immediately forthcoming and you want to make sure there's no delay in submitting the data.
  6. 2020-10-30 15:04 Kristian G. Andersen open
    So if those BioSamples were created on, say 12/25, then that's totally what you'd expect - but we're talking two weeks before there was any (official) realization of a novel coronavirus.
  7. 2020-10-30 15:05 Edward C. Holmes open
    Yes, I don't get it at all. I'm contacting people now. But 2 weeks also sounds WAY too far in advance!
  8. 2020-10-30 15:06 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, definitely - very interesting.
  9. 2020-10-30 15:21 Edward C. Holmes open
    Company A is Vision Medicals. I don't believe for a nanosec that BGI knew there was a pandemic virus on Dec. 10th. That time-line makes zero sense with any known timeline, the epidemiological history of the outbreak, nor what was on Chinese social media. Nor would WIV have anything to do with BGI. The best time-line is here and confirmed my colleagues in China: https://apnews.com/article/3c061794970661042b18d5aeaaed9fae

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