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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.233 [SLACK_000447] · slack_pm:msg:02426

Date: 2020-10-27 10:06
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker: Andrew Rambaut

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Perhaps they could actually go through the data with her and give her the opportunity to try to persuade a few ofthem that know what they are doing. She won't be able to but perhaps they could bring her back from the brink, save her career (assuming they want to).

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2020-10-27 09:42 Robert F. Garry open

She keeps perpetuating the crap that nobody can assemble the genomes from the raw seq data.
2020-10-27 09:43 Robert F. Garry open

Just guessing, but I think Eric would not be happy.
2020-10-27 09:53 Kristian G. Andersen open

*She* may not be able to assemble the genomes because she has no idea what she's doing - however, other people (myself included) can. Easily. I even made the bam files publicly available for anybody to download.
2020-10-27 10:03 Andrew Rambaut open

It sounds like the Broad needs to do an intervention. Just discuss what she is trying to achieve from this.
2020-10-27 10:06 Andrew Rambaut

Perhaps they could actually go through the data with her and give her the opportunity to try to persuade a few ofthem that know what they are doing. She won't be able to but perhaps they could bring her back from the brink, save her career (assuming they want to).
2020-10-27 10:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

She's so deep in now that there's no coming back - if I was the Broad I'd make a clean cut.
2020-10-27 10:21 Andrew Rambaut open

It really doesn't make any sense what she thinks she will get out of this - I assume this is entirely a genuine belief that she has discovered a truth and soon she will be celebrated for it. It is not like she is just giving the right wingerswhat they want either.
2020-10-27 10:24 Kristian G. Andersen open

I think she strongly believes that she has uncovered something that the scientific world hasn't managed to do - fueled by a ton of crackpot followers on Twitter. The main problem, of course, is that she does not understand evolution or genomics - experience is pretty key here.... It's just really dumb - but after she started accusing scientists of covering this up, she no longer has my sympathy.
2020-10-27 10:36 Robert F. Garry open

Beyond the accusations that the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent is the whole FCS is a :unicorn_face: BSand that no one has ever seen a FCS generated that way before.

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