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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.217 [SLACK_000431] · slack_pm:msg:02256

Date: 2020-10-12 14:33
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes
speaker: Andrew Rambaut
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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The argument that not having a close relative argues against natural origins is bonkers. That is the best argument against lab origin.

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
The argument that not having a close relative argues against natural origins is bonkers.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts
That is the best argument against lab origin.	needs context	speaker_own	asserts

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The argument that not having a close relative argues against natural origins is bonkers.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

That is the best argument against lab origin.

needs context

speaker_own

asserts

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2020-10-12 14:28 Edward C. Holmes open

Well, that's a ragbag of garbage. Alina's statement about the 'research integrity' of the viruses closest to SARS-CoV-2 is a disgrace.
2020-10-12 14:33 Andrew Rambaut

The argument that not having a close relative argues against natural origins is bonkers. That is the best argument against lab origin.
2020-10-12 15:16 Edward C. Holmes open

Totally. That they have to resort to talking about fraudulent studies and research integrity just shows how devoid ofactual data they are.
2020-10-12 15:27 Robert F. Garry open

The only virtue to the article is that it gathers a fraction of the garbage in the same bag. Looks like Alina is at leastfriendly with the Xander/BillyB/DRASTIC krewe.
2020-10-12 15:33 Edward C. Holmes open

Yes! Like that cohort of villains in the Lego Batman movie.
2020-10-12 15:39 Robert F. Garry open

Yes indeed - except the Batman villains have an overall higher level of competence.