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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.165 [SLACK_000379] · slack_pm:msg:01694

Date: 2020-09-14 23:05
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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"Accelerated evolution", of course. They _completely_ ignore the new pangolin and bat CoVs (since they're fake). If they had included them, all their arguments go away.

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2020-09-14 22:57 Kristian G. Andersen open

@Kristian Andersen She's the scientist who's been making the round on Fox News (and other conservative media) for months alleging that SARS-CoV-2 came from the lab. She's got decent credentials, so the right is listening. This is her report... Cherry picking and ignoring all recent data.
2020-09-14 22:59 Andrew Rambaut open

And they say that 'ZC45' is the progenitor. Nuts.
2020-09-14 23:01 Kristian G. Andersen open

They say a lot of things... But yeah, ZC45 was the template... (they might want to look at the alignment again...)
2020-09-14 23:03 Andrew Rambaut open

3690 nucleotide differences between ZC45 and SC2. That is a lot of engineering.
2020-09-14 23:05 Kristian G. Andersen

"Accelerated evolution", of course. They _completely_ ignore the new pangolin and bat CoVs (since they're fake). If they had included them, all their arguments go away.
2020-09-14 23:08 Andrew Rambaut open

I wonder what Jon's angle is then? He emailed me but with nothing but the 'report' in the email.
2020-09-14 23:10 Kristian G. Andersen open

Same here - I'm not sure what his angle is either, but sounds like Eddie talked to him.
2020-09-14 23:31 Andrew Rambaut open

I just replied to say 3690 nucleotide differences.
2020-09-14 23:31 Edward C. Holmes open

I was just about ask about how many nt differences there were between ZC45 and SC2. Thanks for that. I think Jon thinks it's shite. He noted all the ifs, buts and maybes. And the smoking gun in underlined bold font.

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