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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.163 [SLACK_000377] · slack_pm:msg:01668

Date: 2020-09-14 15:10
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Kristian G. Andersen
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd. We have people like Alina to thank for this.

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd.	own voice, substantive	speaker_own	asserts

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Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd.

own voice, substantive

speaker_own

asserts

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2020-09-14 15:07 Edward C. Holmes open

The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers). I'm going to chat the co-authors about whether we want to pursue legal action.
2020-09-14 15:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, Jon's been emailing - fishing.
2020-09-14 15:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

Love this part [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 11.31.24 AM.png]
2020-09-14 15:09 Kristian G. Andersen open

Citation 17 is "Eddie Holmes' CV" :wink:
2020-09-14 15:10 Kristian G. Andersen

Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd. We have people like Alina to thank for this.
2020-09-14 15:13 Edward C. Holmes open

Ugh. I had better call the University lawyers this morning.
2020-09-14 15:46 Kristian G. Andersen open

Worth pointing out that "Rule of Law Foundation" and "Rule of Law Society" can be found here: https://rolsociety.org/en/ and https://rolfoundation.org/. Worth clicking through and looking at the photos...
2020-09-14 15:48 Edward C. Holmes open

Brilliant! Totally independent then.
2020-09-14 15:49 Kristian G. Andersen open

Totally. [btw, this could get ugly, so we might need to respond at some point - but let's see what happens]

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