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Slack / Private Message Drop, p.163 [SLACK_000377] · slack_pm:msg:01664

Date: 2020-09-14 15:07
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers). I'm going to chat the co-authors about whether we want to pursue legal action.

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Statement	Grade	Attribution	Stance
The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers).	needs context	uncertain explicit hedge	asserts

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The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers).

needs context

uncertain explicit hedge

asserts

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2020-09-14 14:46 Kristian G. Andersen open

Already getting some attention... The long awaited Yan Report. https://zenodo.org/record/4028830#.X1922Wj0nIW
2020-09-14 14:47 Kristian G. Andersen open

"If we just ignore all the more recent data, then the data clearly shows this was created in the lab. Sorta".
2020-09-14 14:54 Kristian G. Andersen open

Here's the PDF in case it disappears again... [shared file(s): The_Yan_Report.pdf]
2020-09-14 15:05 Edward C. Holmes open

Yes, chatting with Jon Cohen about it now. What total shit.
2020-09-14 15:07 Edward C. Holmes

The accusations at the end that RmYN02 and the pangolin sequences are fraudulent seems like defamation to me (and I'm on these papers). I'm going to chat the co-authors about whether we want to pursue legal action.
2020-09-14 15:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

Yeah, Jon's been emailing - fishing.
2020-09-14 15:08 Kristian G. Andersen open

Love this part [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2020-09-14 at 11.31.24 AM.png]
2020-09-14 15:09 Kristian G. Andersen open

Citation 17 is "Eddie Holmes' CV" :wink:
2020-09-14 15:10 Kristian G. Andersen open

Proposing that all the bat and pangolin sequences are fraudulent and hence SARS-CoV-2 is a lab construct is - well, absurd. We have people like Alina to thank for this.

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