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Slack / Private Message Drop, pp.86-87 [SLACK_000300] · slack_pm:msg:00880

Date: 2020-06-18 19:14
Type: chat message · slack
recipient: Kristian G. Andersen, Robert F. Garry, Andrew Rambaut
speaker: Edward C. Holmes
Topics: Natural origin / zoonotic spillover

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Hi Eddie, Although the pangolins used in Liu's study overlap with ous, we did not used Liu's data in this new paper,and assemble four new virus genomes. In addition, we amplied and sequenced (Sanger sequencing) the complete S genes from lung tissues and virus isolate independently, and comfirm the high-throughput sequencing. As showed inFigure S2, the new genomes almost the same as our previous genome and Lam's. Therefore, i am sure that the previous data is correct.I have discussed with Liu several days ago, he also used Sanger sequencing to attain a nearly complete genome, and confirm his high-throughput result. The latest data in this new article will reassure everyone.Sincerely,Yongyi Shen [shared file(s): image.png]

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2020-06-18 18:30 Kristian G. Andersen open

I don't really see how this changes anything from the evolutionary perspective - because seeing it even once is very strong evidence. But there's no denying that if these studies have to be modified (or possibly even retracted), then that is going to send a nuke into the whole evolution conversation - whether justified or not.
2020-06-18 18:36 Edward C. Holmes open

Can we do a quick Zoom now.
2020-06-18 18:39 Edward C. Holmes open

Tommy's paper very clearly stated the provenance. Can't speak for the others.
2020-06-18 18:40 Kristian G. Andersen open

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/9673242666
2020-06-18 19:14 Edward C. Holmes

Hi Eddie, Although the pangolins used in Liu's study overlap with ous, we did not used Liu's data in this new paper,and assemble four new virus genomes. In addition, we amplied and sequenced (Sanger sequencing) the complete S genes from lung tissues and virus isolate independently, and comfirm the high-throughput sequencing. As showed inFigure S2, the new genomes almost the same as our previous genome and Lam's. Therefore, i am sure that the previous data is correct.I have discussed with Liu several days ago, he also used Sanger sequencing to attain a nearly complete genome, and confirm his high-throughput result. The latest data in this new article will reassure everyone.Sincerely,Yongyi Shen [shared file(s): image.png]
2020-06-18 19:24 Edward C. Holmes open

Just to spice things up, Australia is currently experiencing a state-sponsored cyber-attack that is widely believed tobe from China.
2020-06-18 19:26 Kristian G. Andersen open

.... this won't end well.
2020-06-18 19:27 Edward C. Holmes open

Oh no.
2020-06-18 19:28 Kristian G. Andersen open

For the last month, I have been feeling like I'm one of these guys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_of_the_RMS_Titanic

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