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Date
2020-06-11 15:21
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Robert F. Garry, Edward C. Holmes, Andrew Rambaut
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Kristian G. Andersen

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I don't think the Zhou et al. paper shows that this is multiple indels - to me it just looks like a region not aligning very well?

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  1. 2020-06-11 15:18 Edward C. Holmes open
    My take is that furin cleavage sites are *everywhere* in natural viruses e.g. MERS. I'm revising a paper on avianavulaviruses and they have one. To me, there is a strong natural prior.
  2. 2020-06-11 15:18 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yes - I have been aware of the Follis paper all along - I was _not_ aware that their insertion was exactly where it is inSARS2
  3. 2020-06-11 15:20 Edward C. Holmes open
    Also, the Zhou et al. paper never call it a furin cleavage site insertion and I think the alignment in that paper is the optimal one. If so, it is not a simple 'shift' but rather a complex set of indel events.
  4. 2020-06-11 15:20 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Here's the paper from Baric - not the insertion, but showing that cleavage broadens host range (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31801868/) - which is what furin does. This is also not a new paper - I have been aware of this all along as well, so not a smoking gun, but there are several concerns here related to tissue culture
  5. 2020-06-11 15:21 Kristian G. Andersen
    I don't think the Zhou et al. paper shows that this is multiple indels - to me it just looks like a region not aligning very well?
  6. 2020-06-11 15:22 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Let me spend some time on a table with things that bothers me - because there are several.
  7. 2020-06-11 15:23 Edward C. Holmes open
    That would be useful. Thanks.
  8. 2020-06-11 15:26 Kristian G. Andersen open
    Yeah, let me get it all down - including the silly stuff :wink:
  9. 2020-06-11 15:42 Edward C. Holmes open
    Make sure there is a column in your table that can be used for 'possible natural explanation'. For example, I don't see why adaptation in animals/culture would then produce a virus that would need not to adapt in humans themselves.

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