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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.58 · baric_ti:utt:00461

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric
Topics: Lab-leak / accidental release hypothesis

So accidental release would have fallen under the category of natural evolutionary processes in cell culture.

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So accidental release would have fallen under the category of natural evolutionary processes in cell culture.	quoted / not their view	hypothetical conditional framing	asserts

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So accidental release would have fallen under the category of natural evolutionary processes in cell culture.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yeah. The purpose of the call was to talk about origins and potential origins. Most of the discussion was led by the evolutionary biologists, who were actually probably the most key, important people in the room. And what they said was that they thought it was DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com extremely unlikely that there was any evidence of genetic engineering of the virus, but that they had trouble distinguishing between natural evolutionary processes in cell culture versus animals. And that became sort of the consensus, that it evolved by natural evolutionary processes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And then what else did they discuss. Natural origin, that it evolved naturally?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Well, that's natural origin process that either occurs through nature or natural evolutionary processes that might occur in cell cultures. They're really hard to tell apart.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

I'm not a scientist, so natural origin, to me genetically engineered or accidental release? And correct me.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

So accidental release would have fallen under the category of natural evolutionary processes in cell culture.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

That could have been adapted in the lab.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

That's correct.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And so that was the focus of the call. But it sounds like you didn't speak.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

That's correct.

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