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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.57-58 · baric_ti:utt:00457

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Ralph S. Baric

Yeah. The purpose of the call was to talk about origins and potential origins. Most of the discussion was led by the evolutionary biologists, who were actually probably the most key, important people in the room. And what they said was that they thought it was DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com extremely unlikely that there was any evidence of genetic engineering of the virus, but that they had trouble distinguishing between natural evolutionary processes in cell culture versus animals. And that became sort of the consensus, that it evolved by natural evolutionary processes.

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2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I don't recall.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

You're not on any of the invitation lists, and it's a question. And you don't recall?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I don't recall. I actually looked at all my records and I can't find the reason why I was on the call.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Do you recall what was discussed on the call?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric

Yeah. The purpose of the call was to talk about origins and potential origins. Most of the discussion was led by the evolutionary biologists, who were actually probably the most key, important people in the room. And what they said was that they thought it was DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com extremely unlikely that there was any evidence of genetic engineering of the virus, but that they had trouble distinguishing between natural evolutionary processes in cell culture versus animals. And that became sort of the consensus, that it evolved by natural evolutionary processes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And then what else did they discuss. Natural origin, that it evolved naturally?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Well, that's natural origin process that either occurs through nature or natural evolutionary processes that might occur in cell cultures. They're really hard to tell apart.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

I'm not a scientist, so natural origin, to me genetically engineered or accidental release? And correct me.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

So accidental release would have fallen under the category of natural evolutionary processes in cell culture.

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