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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.51 · baric_ti:utt:00394

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Christina Salazar

In what cases?

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And so was it NIH's position that anything that was created prior to the pause, you could do any type of work after the pause and it wouldn't be considered gain-of-function?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No. That's not correct at all. They reviewed it. Again, you're asking me to describe NIH policy that occurred behind a closed door. So the details of the discussion about what's gain-of-function or what's not is dependent on NIH. My role is to provide them with the information of what I think. They don't have to accept that at all.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Have they ever not?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Yes.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar

In what cases?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

I think a grant with Fang Li, they said there were a couple of things they didn't want us to work on. They suggested we find different viruses in all of the experimental plan, which we did. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

And what grant was that? Was it a coronavirus grant?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

Definitely.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay.