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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), p.39 · baric_ti:utt:00253

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Date
2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type
transcript segment · interview
recipient
Christina Salazar, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker
Ralph S. Baric
That's how I did it. I don't think there's any standardized process. Sometimes we share reagents and we don't ask anything. But if they're going to use a mouse model, which would be a central point for their paper and for countermeasure development, I thought at least in the beginning, at least one paper we should be an author on.

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  1. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    It took a couple of years to get all that paperwork through. It was around 2017 or '18.
  2. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. And did she pay you for them? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Was it a contract?
  3. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    No. The agreement was the first paper she writes we'd just be included on it.
  4. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    Okay. Is that how it works?
  5. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric
    That's how I did it. I don't think there's any standardized process. Sometimes we share reagents and we don't ask anything. But if they're going to use a mouse model, which would be a central point for their paper and for countermeasure development, I thought at least in the beginning, at least one paper we should be an author on.
  6. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    So is that like what in-kind support is, or a gift? I've seen that referenced a couple of times, where there's a gift of something, and it's acknowledged in a paper.
  7. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    I don't know if it's a gift or not. I mean, NIH regulations say that if you publish in scientific journals you need to share reagents with people who ask for them. And for many journals they also require that you share reagents with people who ask for them. She's also been a collaborator who, you know, shared sequences with us before they were published, so it seemed like an appropriate thing to do.
  8. 2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open
    What kind of sequences did she share before? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com
  9. 2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open
    The spike genes of SHC014 and WIV1.

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