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Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted), pp.38-39 · baric_ti:utt:00250

Date: 2026-04-10 09:00 (day precision)
Type: transcript segment · interview
recipient: Ralph S. Baric, Harry Kazenoff, David T. Lambeth III, William Henderson, Clark Ervin, Jake Greenberg
speaker: Christina Salazar

Okay. And did she pay you for them? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Was it a contract?

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2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Fang Li. Okay.
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

And then there was a 2020 or so paper that we published together using the mice that we sent her.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. You sent her those mice when?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

It took a couple of years to get all that paperwork through. It was around 2017 or '18.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar

Okay. And did she pay you for them? DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com Was it a contract?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

No. The agreement was the first paper she writes we'd just be included on it.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

Okay. Is that how it works?
2026-04-10 09:00 Ralph S. Baric open

That's how I did it. I don't think there's any standardized process. Sometimes we share reagents and we don't ask anything. But if they're going to use a mouse model, which would be a central point for their paper and for countermeasure development, I thought at least in the beginning, at least one paper we should be an author on.
2026-04-10 09:00 Christina Salazar open

So is that like what in-kind support is, or a gift? I've seen that referenced a couple of times, where there's a gift of something, and it's acknowledged in a paper.