A single line often inverts meaning once you see what it
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To Peter or to, with --
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Okay. Around 2013 or 2014, Zhengli Shi identified two new sarbecoviruses called SHC014 and WIV1. She was able to culture WIV1 in cell culture, and they published a paper in Nature on that. And we met at a meeting and we had some discussions. Ultimately, she provided me with the sequences, and we used that, of the spike, going at the spike like a protein. And so we build chimeric viruses. DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com They also, when the paper was finally being written, they had developed what are called pseudotype viruses. These are, in essence, single-hit replicon viruses that are pseudotyped with the spike like a protein, of different coronaviruses. And they showed that WIV1 could infect and use human H2 receptors. But they also showed that SHC014 could not. So when she provided us with those reagents and we recovered viruses, we showed that SHC014, in fact, could use that human receptors for entry. And because they also provided their SHC014 pseudotype data in the paper and provided the virus sequences for this, they were included on the manuscript, and I think their grant was cited. So that's how that worked.
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And is that the 2015 paper?
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That's the 2015 paper, yeah. Did you all read that? I'm just wondering, if you read my grants you must be almost numb.
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2026-04-10 09:00
Christina Salazar
I'm not a scientist. But I am familiar with it. So let's turn to that paper. So that was a topic of, and I'm sure you've read the FOIAs about you since, a topic of great discussion. Early in 2020, February 2020, it seemed like all of a sudden that paper was sent around among several people. I think Fauci sent it out on February 1st to a number of people within the NIH.
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I wouldn't know when he did that, but I DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com believe you.
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Were you ever asked about that paper by anyone?
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Yes. On the 13th of February, I believe, 13th or 14th -- again, exact day is going to be difficult for me to recollect without notes in front of me -- but on the 13th or 14th I was up in D.C. for a progress report meeting on a grant and also giving a talk at some meeting. So we scheduled a meeting for about an hour with his leadership team, and I met him either at his office or at one of the NIH buildings for the extramural program.
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Okay. So that meeting was the 13th or 14th?