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Yup, I read this one when we wrote our paper - it's good. And yes, likely vaccine work, although I'd argue that that's just one type of 'escape'. Never fully proven though, so given all the weirdness we see with Ebola, who knows. [2020-11-18 21:46:19] [Eddie Holmes] Who knows indeed. Good, reasoned argument though. [2020-11-18 22:58:52] [Andrew Rambaut] [thread - ID: 2020-11-18 20:49:52] @Eddie Holmes You mentioned that before. Can you point me in the direction of something about that? [2020-11-18 22:59:48] [Andrew Rambaut] [thread - ID: 2020-11-18 20:49:52] @Eddie Holmes Should have read further down the thread. Ignore me. [2020-11-19 00:27:06] [Andrew Rambaut] Disastrous phylogenetic tree though. UPGMA? Totally distorts the relationships. [2020-11-19 00:29:16] [Eddie Holmes] Yes, that is indeed a shocker. Not seen a UPGMA tree for ages! [2020-11-19 05:20:48] [Robert Garry] The FCS nonsense is starting to piss me off. [2020-11-19 12:02:53] [Eddie Holmes] Time to post something on Virological.org? [2020-11-19 12:23:39] [Eddie Holmes] This is apparently what George Gao said on his online IUMS lecture: [2020-11-19 12:23:42] [Eddie Holmes] "For almost a year we are asking ourselves does Covid-19 have a reservoir or an intermediary host, we worked so hard, [practicing] One Health, we haven't found anything." "For some other viruses, it's so easy to find the intermediary host." [Mers - dromedary, Ebola - mammals, hedra - horses, nipah - swine, lassa fever - rodent] "Yet we tried so hard and we haven't found anything for Covid-19. That makes me think about in a one health setting, is HIV really from a monkey? We know HIV is so close to SIV, but HIV has never been SIV, they separated - we don't know how long ago. But they separated a long, long time ago. Maybe the Covid-19 virus also separated from a bat virus a long, long time ago. We might not be able to find the intermediate host. We have to rethink our theory or hypothesis about the [inaudible perhaps Gao says - logic] of viruses. People think it's closely related to those monkeys, but the virus has never been the same. This is why we have more questions than answers on the origins of the Covid-19. For any other virus it's so clear, for the Covid-19 we have so many questions remained. Is Covid-19 so easy to be transmitted through the package of the seafood, long distance package, why is that - we don't know? This is something new. It's a scientific question." (Webinar, part 62) [2020-11-19 12:24:03] [Eddie Holmes] I think he's loosing it.