Slack / Private Message Drop — page 1101

[Andrew Rambaut] Looking at the edits now (in case there was anything added and removed). Actually Ian made a lot more edits than I remembered... [2022-04-01 17:45:14] [Kristian Andersen] Oh yeah, he actually did - quite a number of them pretty good. Important to get that right - because that's definitely not what I remember. As for the GOF though, he's lying. We also have this: [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 17.40.44.png] [2022-04-01 17:55:02] [Andrew Rambaut] Yeah but we probably don't want to say 'he didn't warn us' because that just sounds like we didn't know or didn't agree. [2022-04-01 18:01:26] [Kristian Andersen] Definitely not. But here's the thing - the work at the WIV is _exactly_ why we considered the lab leak in the first place! I knew about all the work in BSL-2 - chimeric viruses, cultures, etc - but it seems like Ian didn't. Plus, no GOF at the WIV. [2022-04-01 18:27:57] [Robert Garry] Some of the nastiest shit out of Alina - hard to believe Broad tolerates this. Parking it here. This is at least 30 Kristian tweets in 2 days. Unbelievable. [shared file(s): Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.24.44 PM.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.23.57 PM.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.23.40 PM.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.22.44 PM.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.22.13 PM.png, Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.21.51 PM.png] [2022-04-01 20:47:24] [Eddie Holmes] Again, Jesse's preprint included an email FOIAd from NIH from a Chinese group without their permission, for which they had no right to reply and which wasn't even about the data in hand. Who's the bully? [2022-04-01 21:06:27] [Kristian Andersen] Morally bankrupt. That's what's so unbelievable about "poor Jesse" - have any of these people thought for a moment about the "poor" people he's accusing? Which Bob and I had the nerve to point about? I'm sorry, buddy, but it's the other way around - keep playing the victim all you want. [2022-04-01 21:06:56] [Kristian Andersen] To my previous point - Eddie, do you remember Ian mentioning anything about GOF? [2022-04-01 21:50:40] [Eddie Holmes] No, that's a complete fabrication. I'm going to challenge him in on it. [2022-04-04 13:35:31] [Robert Garry] Cleaned up the "indel" alignment with delta and BA.1/2. Story holds that many of the mutations are in or near indels. Highlighted the N-linked glycans as those aso seem to be other areas where some VoC variation takes place. Any objections to posting this in the virological thread as an update? [shared file(s): image.png]