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recall much in the discussion of the slowness of the P3CO
process. But if it says it in the email then at some point
they may have wanted to discuss that. I don't know. Was
that something that I said?
MS. SALAZAR: No, it wasn't. But in the agenda items
that we've seen from other officials, that's the agenda
that was on there. But from your House testimony it
sounded like that wasn't necessarily what was discussed.
DR. BARIC: I don't recall that part being in the
House, so I think the House testimony is actually accurate.
MS. SALAZAR: So can you let us know what you all
talked about and who was present?
DR. BARIC: Well, Fauci was present for about 5 to 10
minutes max. He got called away for a phone call in a
SCIF, and so he left pretty early in the meeting. There
was some basic discussion about the new virus. Ultimately,
they got to, I think, what they really wanted to talk about
was gain-of-function related experiments, or I think it
should be potential gain-of-function related experiments,
that were associated with this 2015 and 2016 paper. I was
a little surprised that they didn't seem to have the
paperwork that was involved in my presentation on why I
thought this might be more of a loss-of-function than a
gain-of-function phenotype. And so then I think a day or
so later I sent them all those documents.
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| baric_ti:utt:00158 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 27–28 |
| baric_ti:utt:00159 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 28 |
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| baric_ti:utt:00161 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 28 |
| baric_ti:utt:00162 | 2026-04-10 | transcript segment | 28–29 |