Baric Transcribed Interview (Redacted) — page 108

DC.Scheduling@LexitasLegal.com MS. SALAZAR: But, you know, part of the conversation -- DR. BARIC: Yeah, hindsight is always 20/20 in this case. So you can look at a document and say why can't I remember. MS. SALAZAR: No. I mean, I think part of the conversation, though, for a long time, was, I mean, the debate over whether it was a natural original, a lab leak, you know, accidental or not. I mean, this was a conversation that was happening in the public. There were multiple papers authored. We had Proximal Origins. People were shamed and called conspiracy theorists. I mean, is that not true? DR. BARIC: That's true. MS. SALAZAR: I mean, my understanding is you received threats. You know, like it's not like no one was talking about this. And, you know, even if you may not have remembered it, how many people were on that grant? Amy Sims, so she never said, "Oh, remember that grant that we were on?" DR. BARIC: Amy Sims left the lab right before the pandemic started. MS. SALAZAR: Have you ever spoken to her since? DR. BARIC: Off and on, yeah. MS. SALAZAR: And she never raised it with you?